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Fri, 14 Oct 2005

It's a bittersweet day for us at Rogue Amoeba. We're releasing an update to Detour, version 1.5.5, but with this comes the retirement of Detour from our product lineup. Beginning now, Detour will no longer be sold in our store, nor actively developed. You can now download Detour and enjoy, with no hassles, no noise overlay, and no need to get out your wallet. However, Detour is also now provided with no warranty, and no support from Rogue Amoeba.

Users who've already purchased Detour will receive support through April 15th, 2006, as well as an exclusive "Thank You" gift available here. Detour will continue to be available for download, and support OS X 10.2 through 10.4, and possibly beyond (that depends on Apple).

So why are we doing this? The reasons for Detour's retirement are four-fold, and they're a bit complex. I'll lay them out below.

1) Apple is changing the way audio works
With the OS X 10.3 version of Mail and the OS X 10.4 version of Mail and iChat, Apple has adjusted the way these applications output audio. Mail and iChat now both use the System Alerts device and volume for their audio output, and this overrides anything Detour sets. Detour allows you to adjust your System Alerts device, but this is simply a duplication of a control found in the Sound Effects tab of the standard OS X Sound System Preference. Further, in Sound, you can adjust the Alert volume as well.

What this means is that two of the main applications for which Detour was designed no longer work with Detour, and there's no good way around it. Detour was originally conceived to lower the volume of things like, you guessed it, email alerts and IM noises. Without the ability to do that, it becomes both less useful and a harder sell.

2) Applications are taking over
Whether Detour had something to do with it or not, developers of many applications are beginning to realize that this volume control idea is a good one. From third-party AIM client Adium to movie player VLC to most new games, dozens of applications now have their own audio controls. This is great, insomuch as it provides the control users are looking for without needing a third party tool. The problem is these settings override anything set in Detour. Not only is Detour not needed here, but users are often confused as to why it's not working.

3) Support Issues
Which brings us to the third problem, that of support. Detour has always required more support than our other applications, due largely to the complexity of its interaction with various audio devices, as well as the poor quality of many audio drivers out there.

4) Cost vs. Reward
Support issues alone would not be enough to prevent us from continuing development. However, there is a definite cost vs. reward problem here. Detour has always been popular with a dedicated group of users who swear by it. However, Detour accounts for a very small percentage of our overall sales, something around 2-3%. Meanwhile, it takes a much larger percentage of our support time, upwards of 15% based on a pseudo-scientific study of our email. Put simply, Detour has always been something of a non-starter, as far as sales go. We want to improve the world for our users, but we also need to stay in business.

So there you have it. Detour is being slowly made obsolete by Apple and others, and it's also costing us a lot of time and money to develop, resulting in a large net loss for us. Because of this, we've decided to put it out to pasture. You'll still be able to use it as long as it works with OS X, and by the time it doesn't anymore, perhaps Apple will have an integrated solution.

Posted by Paul | Permalink | View/Post Comments (16)

Comments


Ton Ensing
Fri Oct 14 11:31:57 2005

Well, it was nice having it. A superb tool to get all audio to acceptable levels. Thanks for making it.

Schmock
Fri Oct 14 13:38:35 2005

Couldn't you guys have added a system volume menulet to Detour and we users could have ditched Apples all too simple one and found another great use for Detour.

Stephen Jonke
Fri Oct 14 14:32:41 2005

I use Detour primarily as a means of routing iTunes' and VLC's audio to a USB audio box, while sending everything else through the system speakers. The audio box is hooked up to my stereo. This has worked fantastically. I hope that you (or someone else) will provide a solution for this that will continue to be developed. I never used the volume adjustement part of Detour, I just need the ability to route selected applications audio to a USB audio box.

Mike Byrne
Fri Oct 14 16:16:14 2005

I'd like to second Stephen Jonke's comment: that is EXACTLY what I use Detour for, to send some audio streams (mostly iTunes) out to my stereo rather than through the computer speakers. If all Detour did was that, I'd be just as happy and I'd pay just as much.

David H Kornhauser
Fri Oct 14 21:49:27 2005

Chalk me up as another happy Detour user. I also often use it to route iTunes audio to larger speakers nearby and would be happy to have it do only this (since Apple hasn't chosen to give iTunes this functionality yet). Being able to tweak audio levels on games is also extremely nice. Whatever you can do to release source would be immensely appreciated.

Ronald
Sun Oct 16 06:06:25 2005

Volume adjustment was nice, but really not my use of Detour. The real use was to detour audio, i.e. send it to different devices.
I have here:
- bluetooth head set
- built-in audio
- USB and FW audio boxes
Working in a media production environment, the ability to route various sounds to different devices is key.
Detour, SoundFlower are both a must in such a scenario. I just hope that someone will fill the void and create a plain old routing matrix for all CoreAudio sound, input and output. Apple won't do it, because someone might possibly abuse it to violate copyrights (as if there were not plenty of simpler means to do so, if someone really is bent on doing it...)

pron addict
Tue Oct 18 12:51:56 2005

Detour was great for playing music on main speakers and routing pron audio to connected headphones.

That was its main usage for myself, and I imagine, most users.

Jim Strong
Fri Oct 21 07:02:27 2005

Just to add that I really appreciated Detour to divert sound to my hi-fi system and Skype to my voip phone set via my iMic. I'd be really lost without this functionality - and like others here, would happily pay up for that service!

Thanks for a great little application - and the free gift!!

Jim Strong

chris
Mon Oct 24 13:51:50 2005

i used detour because, like most of the commenters above, i also have multiple outputs and wanted to select between them in a more fine-grained way than apple's preferences allow -- the output volume never mattered to me.

any chance this could be open-sourced for future improvements / maintenance through OS upgrades?

Michael Froman
Mon Oct 24 17:08:40 2005

Just another voice in the crowd that used Detour for routing only, but it was a joy to be able to do that.  Thanks for the great product.

Paul
Wed Oct 26 23:10:58 2005

We're happy to hear from Detour's fans. It was (and is) the application of ours that I use most, and it saddens me that we won't be developing it any more, but the reasons above and more all led us to one course of action.

As far as open sourcing it, unfortunately it contains a fair chunk of code that we need to keep private, so this isn't really an option right now. For now, keep using Detour, and we'll see what happens as far as OS updates go.

Ben Miller
Thu Oct 27 23:03:12 2005

Yep, me too. iTunes and whatnot goes through my USB interface to the stereo, most other things come out my built-in iMac speakers. I'll be sad when I can't do that anymore. It's too bad Detour turned out to be a pain in the ass for you guys!

Hugh Ashton
Sat Oct 29 22:33:35 2005

I used Detour for detouring the iTunes, etc. audio, rather than as a volume controller. I would really like to see it kept on (even with reduced functionality) as a live product.

Of course, it's always possible Apple will take the idea and incorporate it into a future OS.

akio
Tue Nov 1 11:31:07 2005

Same here, the only feature I expect from Detour is routing iTunes sound to a USB audio device, and this has become a very important function in my music ilfe.

How about limiting the target application to iTunes only, and continue development and support?

Kevin Guernier
Thu Nov 3 16:59:11 2005

I likewise use Detour to send music from a variety of players to my stereo (via an xitel.com interface). For me this is an important function that I relay on daily.

If additional development of Detour is required for future OS revisions perhaps Rogue Amoeba could look at other marketing options - such as selling the product without support, but giving users the option of buying an annual support subscription.

I would like to think that with the growing interest in internet radio (and video), there should be room for a product like Detour.

Paul
Sun Nov 6 17:05:50 2005

Indeed, many people used Detour for just one or two applications. Unfortunately, these "one or two applications" are not all the same. iTunes is probably the most popular, but there are many "only application I need"s. We have no plans to continue development just for iTunes, sorry akio.

As far as changing the sales model, this just isn't economical. The support costs of Detour were quite high, and that may alleviate them. But sales of Detour were never strong either, and this certainly wouldn't change that.

Further, we pride ourselves on our support, handling issues before and after purchase, and selling a product without support just doesn't sit well. We -want- customers to be able to ask questions, and get assistance, and it shouldn't cost extra. I can't imagine anyone being happy when forced to buy support just to email us about a question. The flip-side of this is that with Detour, this went to the far end of the spectrum, and it forced us to cease development. Sadly, this is the end of the trail for Detour.


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